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Future Christian explores church leadership, church renewal, and the future of Christianity through conversations with pastors, authors, theologians, and other faith leaders. Each episode offers practical wisdom and fresh ideas for navigating church decline, cultural change, ministry, and the challenges facing congregations today.
Future Christian explores church leadership, church renewal, and the future of Christianity through conversations with pastors, authors, theologians, and other faith leaders. Each episode offers practical wisdom and fresh ideas for navigating church decline, cultural change, ministry, and the challenges facing congregations today.
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19 minutes ago
19 minutes ago
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What if the biggest source of stress in ministry isn't overwork, but taking responsibility for other people's problems?
Rev. Margaret Marcuson joins Loren to discuss her book Sustainable Ministry: How to Lead and When to Nap and how family systems theory can help pastors lead with less anxiety and greater effectiveness. Drawing on decades of experience as a pastor and clergy coach, Margaret explores why church leaders tend to overfunction, how the desire to help can create unhealthy dependencies, and why setting boundaries isn't selfish. They also discuss the relationship between money and anxiety, how family dynamics shape pastoral leadership, and what it means to be responsible to a congregation rather than for it.
Topics include:
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Why pastors overfunction and how to recognize it
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Setting healthy boundaries in pastoral care
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Family systems theory and congregational leadership
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Money anxiety, compensation, and pastoral identity
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Finding sustainable rhythms for ministry
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Leading amid anxiety and institutional decline
Margaret Marcuson helps clergy get lighter and less burdened by their ministry so they can have more influence with less stress. She works with leaders from over 20 denominations across North America as teacher and coach. She is the author of Leaders who Last and Money and Your Ministry in addition to her new book Sustainable Ministry. An American Baptist minister and graduate of the Pacific School of Religion, she served as pastor at First Baptist Church, Gardner, MA for 13 years. She lives in Portland, Oregon where she sings in two choirs.
Mentioned Resources:
📖 Her book: Sustainable Ministry
📖 Rauschenbusch book: Dennis L. Johnson
🌐 Her website: MargaretMarcuson.com
📱 Socials:@margaret.marcuson
🎧 Episodes Referenced: Kinsie Tate
🎧 Episodes Referenced: Chuck DeGroat
🎧 Episodes Referenced: Lovett Weems
Connect with Future Christian:
📱 Future Christian Instagram: futurechristianpod
📱 Martha's Instagram: martha_tatarnic
📱 Loren's Instagram: lorenrichmondjr
🟧 Future Christian Substack: https://futurechristian.substack.com/
Supporting Sponsors:
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Future Christian Team:
Loren Richmond Jr. – Host & Executive Producer
Martha Tatarnic – Co-Host
Dennis Sanders – Producer
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19 minutes ago
40 min

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